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Unread 01-10-2013, 12:01 AM   #301
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Dear Saint,
This is great ! The very best of Luck to you and that you have rediscovered this passion, a healthy one at that. I cannot even imagine running such a distance-though in a way, any journey we endeavor is imo similar to your long distance marathon: setting goals, doing the work and reaping the benefits. I will be thinking of you and your family ( I'll bet your daughter is so proud of you).
Good luck and most of all enjoy it ! Let us know how it goes, Take care, Carly
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Saint. Go at your own pace, drink plenty of fluids along the way & use a cream or jell where your body parts rub including your chest fron the shirt & you should be OK.
I ran my 1st one at 38 years old with a time of about 3 hrs 50 minutes. I never hit the wall & did not have to stop & walk.
A month later my alcoholic mind tells me I can run another one. At 13 miles I was 30 minutes ahead of my 1st marathon time. At 17 miles I hit the wall & had to walk & run the rest of the way. I ended up 5 minutes slower than my 1st race.
Good luck!!!!!
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Well call me a Marathoner!!!! 26.2 miles, wooo hooo. What an experience. Started the race slow. Lots of people, 15,000 I believe so it was pretty crowded the first few miles. I had a side stitch by mile 5, the feet were sore by mile 8 and the quads were acting up a little. After 13 miles things settled down and I actually ran faster the 2nd half of the race. I walked through all the water stops. Two pretty cool things. Met up with a young lady from England who was carrying the torch in the 2012 torch relay, part of the ceremony of lighting the torch. She had it with her and passed it around so people could carry it. Yup I carried it for a few yards, pretty special moment. The other moment was running through Downtown Disney. I ran right by a Vintage pickup truck that is part of a scene. My daughter and her two cousins had their picture taken in front of the truck while they were in costume for a Disney event, over 7 years ago. Talk about Dejavu'!!! My girlfriend survived the distance, battling it out with severely blistered feet. I finished in 4 hours 12 minutes....very happy overall with my time. 26.2 miles is a loooong way. I have a newfound respect for the professional marathoners who finish the distance in half the time I did!!!

Thought of you all during the race. Carly, Lee, Frank, Jerry G., Magda, Tryn, Michael, Marilyn, Mike, 1418.... you guys and gals were in my thoughts.

Lee, thanks for the advice. Saw one guy with two red stains the size of quarters where his nipples should be!!!!

Still moving but we'll see what tomorrow brings.

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Great time there Saint. You made it!!! Yes proper fitting shoes are so important along with socks.
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Congrats Saint !
It is a LOOOONG distance and your highlights of it - imagining all of the people, carrying the torch, and to set that goal and accomplish it is so inspiring! Kudos to your paramour for finishing. You know we were thinking of you as well.
Well done Saint, Bravo - Carly
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Unread 01-15-2013, 08:14 PM   #307
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Yes Saint I forgot to mention how neat it was to carry the torch.

As a police officer I was involved in escorting the Olympic torch.

I also was part of a police relay team I carried the Special Olympic torch. The kids were so greatfull. They wanted autographs from us. We just wanted hugs.

As I now look back on my life as a recovering alcoholic I realize I did some good things all the while being a drunk.
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Lee,

I'm happy you realize you accomplished good things in the past. There was no doubt in my mind. I think of it as good people that at times act badly and in the end it's all about forgiveness, forgiving ourselves for past transgressions and ensuring we also have the capability to forgive others.

You give back so much here. Your wisdom and experience help those attempting to recover as well as those who have loved ones caught in the throes of addiction. I respect you and all you do here.

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Thanks Carly. I am really proud of what I accomplished, still on cloud nine.

And very thankfull.


If your husband doesn't mind I'll give you a big hug aka Marilyn style....

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Unread 01-21-2013, 09:10 AM   #310
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Just heard a song by Whitney Houston. What a beautiful voice.... Such a tragedy. Her addiction eventually got her.......
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Unread 01-21-2013, 10:13 PM   #311
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Last week I had a few emotional moments. The Thursday night before the Marathon I was running and during the last two miles I thought of you all and started to get choked up, knot in my throat, on the verge of tears. I realized if not for all of you, and I do mean all of you I wouldn't be where I was now, sober and ready to attempt a marathon.


Skip ahead to after the marathon...... I watched my girlfriend run the last few hundred feet to the finish line. I was sooooooo happy for her. She hadn't been able to train any where near as much as she needed and wanted due to the demands of her job. To be able to see her run and accomplish running a marathon, something she feared she wouldn't be able to complete, made me so happy for her!!!


To say I was happy to have finished is perhaps an understatement. I was joyous, glowing, and proud of myself. Proud of my accomplishment for the first time in quite a long time. I was never really proud that I got sober. Don't get me wrong I'm glad I did but it wasn't really an option. I needed to get sober. I had drank pretty much every day of my adult life for over 25 years. The drinking was increasing and I knew it would be a downhill spiral if I continued.


The completion of the marathon was the culmination of all my running since I started 2 ½ years ago when I couldn't complete a single mile let alone 26.2. Completing a Marathon was a Voluntary goal that I set over a year ago. I mean really, who in their right mind would want to run 26.2 miles and finish right where you started. I decided on this craziness with the assistance of my girlfriend! I started training in late August of this year running 40, sometimes 50 miles per week. I put the work in, slogged through the tough dog days of summer, ran in rain, sun, wind, ran when I didn't feel like running and then ran some more. And I got hurt.... I recuperated and started running again. I had to throw my original goal finishing time out the window and set a new goal. The new goal was to finish and enjoy the experience. I succeeded on both parts. I even wore my medal around my neck on the flight home, not something I would ordinarily do. The neat thing was strangers noticed and took a moment to talk with me, congratulate me, or share their experience with me. It was indeed a very special moment in time for me.


As Carly mentioned you can draw parallels from my story of running the marathon and that of getting sober. The setting of goals, putting the work in, overcoming setbacks, and most importantly to me, finishing, sharing with others who have been through what you have. For those few days after the race, I once again felt the sun on my face.....


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Unread 01-22-2013, 08:58 AM   #312
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Saint, Never give up. The promises do come true.
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For those that may be struggling with our disease I found this quote below.
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Failure isn't falling down

Failure is not getting back up



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Unread 05-06-2013, 03:54 PM   #314
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For those that may be struggling with our disease I found this quote below.
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Failure isn't falling down

Failure is not getting back up


Hi Saint, I love that. I have someone I'll be posting it to next in the opiate forum.

Thank you!

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Unread 05-06-2013, 07:01 PM   #315
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Nancy,

Glad you like it! Thanks for everything you do here and on the other side of the house.


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P.S. any word on Carly??
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Unread 05-06-2013, 07:45 PM   #316
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Hi Saint, no, I haven't heard from Carly in a while. I just assumed that she was busy with family, especially her son and all his school activities and she'd post when she could.

I'll drop her a line and will give you an update when I hear from her. Hopefully soon!

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Thank you Nancy!

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R. Lee is wondering about Carly too.
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Hi Saint and R. Lee, I dropped Carly a note almost two weeks ago and haven't heard back from her. I'm going to assume that she's really busy with everything. I don't want to be a pest, but will drop her another email in another week.

Just wanted to let you know.

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Nancy,

Thank you for the update! I hope we hear from Carly soon.

Have a great day,
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Hey guys,

I'm heading out to Colorado tomorrow for a vacation with my girlfriend, daughter and her friend. I'm running a half marathon on Sunday.... well maybe walking some it it. Their version of 'rolling hills' differs significantly from my version. Should be a blast!

I'll be thinking of you all. Stay safe!

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Hello Saint.

Wow!!!!, what a beautifully massive Country you folks have!!! Imagine that? "sliding off to Colorado for a break". The best of luck with your self imposed masochism(!), i shall be cheering you all the way.

Have a wonderful time my friend.

Be peaceful, be healthy and be strong, (yer gonna need it!) Loveness to you Saint
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Unread 06-28-2013, 08:29 AM   #323
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Hi Saint!

Good luck! I admire and respect runners. I may be able to teach all these classes in the gym, but I start to run and it is game over. I make it about a block or two and then decide that I feel like I'm going to die so I stop. Take care! Jenm
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Unread 06-28-2013, 10:00 AM   #324
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Hi Saint, have a great vacation! Colorado is such beautiful country, so if you do end up walking some of the half marathon (which I'm guessing you won't), you'll at least be surrounded by some great scenery to take in.

Safe travels and enjoy!

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Good luck with your half marathon Saint & have a great time.
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It could be harder...like running up pike's peak? Have fun saint, and don't kill youself as it might be hot!

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Hi all,

I've been back for a day or so from a wonderful vacation. What a beautiful, scenic state Colorado is. Our days were full from white water rafting on the Colorado river, tubing, horseback riding, attending a rodeo, walks along the river, scenic drives through the countryside and more!! At every turn the mountains provide a breathtaking vista that seemingly changes as the daylight changes. Snow was still evident on some of the higher peaks while we were basking in 70 degree temps during the day with no, now get this, no mosquitoes and no humidity!!!! It was a slice of heaven!

Yes I did finish the 1/2 Marathon, all 13.1 grueling miles. The change in elevation( read that to mean less oxygen at higher elevations) took it's toll on me. Not to mention the 'hills' we 'ran' were on part of the ski slopes! My quads were one big cramp by the end of the race, but I finished. Would I do it again?

Absolutely!!

Also attended an outdoor concert. The band was a 'Pink Floyd' tribute band. They sounded just like the original band. The music was amazing as was the atmosphere. The beer was flowing all around me and there were those smoking pot as is typical but I never had any desire to partake. I was so happy to be able to enjoy the music, sober. Today I can't imagine it any other way.

Progress, not perfection.

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Saint, I'm glad that you, your daughter & girlfriend had a good time.

That is right you can use Mary Jane in CO without breaking the state's law.
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As I lay in bed trying to sleep tonight myriad thoughts crossed through my mind. Wondered if I was a good enough dad to my teenage daughter, am I teaching her the right things, will she share the same fate as I??? I need to talk to her soon about my drinking past. She may be aware but has never mentioned it to her. She will be 15 years old in a few short months. My where does the time go......

I thought of everyone here. Lee has been my rock. Steadfast. I recalled how you mentioned you have never been able to cry since the war. Made me think of my Grandfather who is now almost 94 and fought in World War II. He stormed the beaches of Germany with his platoon only to look back and see only one other person standing, the rest were floating in the ocean. He never spoke of the war to me but the physical scars are there. He is a quiet but good man who also likes to drink his highballs in the afternoon. Hard worker he is, to this very day. I wondered if my Grandfather has cried since the war...

I often think of CarlyO and bless her soul she and Lee spent a lot of time helping me through my first year of sobriety!! I have to believe all is well with her though it does trouble me she has been noticeably quiet after saying she would still be around. I think of all she has suffered through in her life regarding addiction only to turn it all around even though she had stood at the foot of the abyss... such a kind and compassionate soul..... she makes me feel rather pedestrian. She always knew what to say to whoever entered these doors.

I think of Tryn and his struggles and how he is now in the groove of sobriety. Yes Lee he does write rather eloquently doesn't he! So happy for you Tryn! I dare so you have much more to offer everyone here. You are such a positive influence to those struggling.

Michael..... who has not given up on himself. Yayyyyy!! So easy to get caught up in the disease. I know because I was..... it was a lifestyle. A never ending merry go round that was not so merry. Many lost years but it could have been a lot worse... It can always get worse.

Ashwin, oceans away but you found your way here. So glad you too have not given up hope. It is a struggle early on but it does get easier if we want it and put the work in. Keep at it.

I think of Frank. His sense of humor and how I thought he was gone forever only to show up one day and say he was many months sober!!! It was like a long lost friend returning and with such great news! I was over the top happy for him for I know how I struggled so.

Nancy, ever in the background running this place ( I think). The fabric that keep this ship sailing....

I often think of this world we live in and how busy we are seemingly going nowhere, moving, constantly moving. Reminds me of an ant colony with the exception we are self aware. Are we really all that different??

I am constantly amazed by how huge this galaxy is we live in and how fragile our hold on life truly is yet we as a race still find the time to kill others. Truly myopic. To think it all started as a "Big Bang" (raised Catholic but I can't dismiss the science) and it may all end in a giant black hole where even light can't escape. Fascinating to me... Life is truly a miracle... Awesome stuff to be sure but we also can think of only our own needs at times and forget all else. Also interesting.

I hope you can forgive my rambling thoughts but you have allowed me to put my mind at ease by putting these words down. Don't think me foolhardy though I very well may be!

This website has I believe saved my life. Well actually it is the people who share of themselves so freely that saved my life. I feel the struggles of those trying to break free of their addiction and I also feel the joy and peace of people like Lee, Julie and Jenm. Amazed how emotionally invested one can become in the people that share their life stories here.

I'm going to stop blathering and get some sleep. I've been at this for a bit, I type rather slow : ).

Goodnight all,
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Hi Saint, first of all, you weren't blathering! What a beautiful post. You're so much appreciated here with your kind and caring words and support of others. Thank you.

As far as talking with your daughter, here are some links from the HBO "Addiction" series that might be helpful if she has questions. There's a lot of misunderstanding and stigmatizing of those with addiction disorders and we find that when people understand the science behind addiction, it's easier to toss aside the incorrect assumptions that that it's not a matter of choice or willpower, but actual changes in the brain that make it a treatable medical condition.

"What is Addiction?"
http://www.hbo.com/addiction/underst...addiction.html

"Why Do Some People Become Addicted?"
http://www.hbo.com/addiction/underst..._addicted.html

"Addiction and the Brain"
http://www.hbo.com/addiction/underst...the_brain.html

"Myths of Addiction"
http://www.hbo.com/addiction/underst...addiction.html

I hope this is helpful. Again thank you.

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Saint,

You have helped me more than you know. I'm so grateful for you. My teenage sons know about my drinking, and I share openly with them. Though they don't know the "details" of part of my story, I share with them openly so (hopefully) they don't have to go through the grips of alcohol addiction as I have. However, if they do, I will be their support. As of right now (praise God!) they want nothing to do with it. A lot is said as a parent without ever saying a word. Thank you for YOU! Jenm
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Saint, You have helped keep me sober.

You are such a kind man & have helped so many. Like Tryn, you write so eloquently.

Thanks for contacting so may with your post tonight.
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Don't know what we would do around here without you Saint. No joke. Sometimes your posts really move me to the point that I actually ( I know, strange) take a look at myself. Thanks for being here for us all.

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Saint, how inspiring your life has become to not only those who suffer, but those who have recovered from this disease. You always know what to say to connect and relate to a person, no matter where they are at in their addiction. Your post from the other night took me back. All the way back to my first post when I was sitting on my broken futon mattress in Pittsburgh. That scared, hurting, angry and resentful young man reached out to this site, expecting nothing than to be told to get to an AA meeting and stop drinking. I found so much more. Our life on this earth is made up of 100% perspective. How we view ourselves, the world and those around us, forms and shapes us to be the person that we are. If we want to change, we must change our perspectives. Thanks for being a perspective changer Saint. Blessings.

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Michael,

I just posted this on another thread but R Lee will often say " I don't have a drinking problem, I have a thinking problem". It took me awhile to wrap my head around that but it is soooooooo true in my case.

Stay positive Michael. Their are bad days ahead, we all have them, but my worse day sober is better than my best day drunk.

Glad you are back with us Michael. You have an enormous amount of insight for such a young man.

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Visited my grandmother today at the hospital. She found out she has terminal leukemia. They gave her two weeks to two or three months depending on how long her body can hold out. Traditional chemo and radiation has been ruled out because of her age, she is 91 years young. She is not strong enough to tolerate either treatment. Her husband and family is with her tonight. She will be returning home tomorrow if she is stable.

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Saint,

I feel for you on this part of lifes journey. My heartfelt love to you and the family. She is 91 years young you say? When she is in heaven, in Gods pastures, your memory will always be of youth, wisdom and vibrancy.

Peace to your Grandmother, to you and your family.

Loveness my friend.
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Hi Saint, I'm so sorry about your grandmother. My thoughts are with you and your family.

Please take good care. We're here for you.

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Saint, I feel for you & will keep your grandmother & you in my prayers.
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Hi,

4 years sober as of today, and loving it!

Peace,
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Congratulations Saint! Great job!

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Saint, Congratulations on your 4 years of sobriety. You are so important here.

Keep up the great help. You keep me sober.
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Thank you!!
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I had a great conversation with my daughter driving home from her last xcountry meet of the season yesterday. We were talking about family medical history and the conversation morphed into alcohol addiction. She wanted to know how long I've been sober, if I went to AA, if I saw a therapist, if I still had cravings, etc. The questions were all on her terms and I answered each as honestly as I could. It was one of those heart to heart conversations that left me feeling like I actually informed her a little bit about addiction instead of preaching to her. I hope the conversation meant as much to her as it did to me.

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Good job Saint. It is great that she feels comfortable enough to open up & ask questions. A sign of good parents.
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Hello Saint my friend. Bright blessings to you.

I am just dropping in to say hello and hope all is well with you? I haven't heard from you in a little while and i just wanted to check you were ok?

Thinking of you.

Be peaceful and be strong. Loveness to you Saint.
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Saint, It is a busy time of the year but I have been thinking of you also & hope all is well.
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Tryn, Lee,
Thanks for checking in on me. I am doing well. Yes it is a busy time of year with the holidays and all it brings. I have also been training for my 2nd marathon January 12th. One more 20 mile run and my taper period begins!!! My goal is to break 4 hours and so far on track as long as I can stay healthy. I have a mind of a 20 year old and the body of a 51 year old.... but I enjoy the work and the training to try and reach my goal. As a runner yourself you know how much time and training goes into an effort for one single day. I am enjoying the journey, one step at a time.

Tryn,
What can I say except WOW. You've turned your life around and are now getting to enjoy the fruits of all your hard work my friend.

Thank you!

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saint, Good luck & thanks for getting back.
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