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Unread 06-27-2013, 10:26 AM   #1
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Hello everyone,

I have been on Sub about a month, stable at 6mg. I was doing about 300mg of oxy before getting on Sub. Now I have no energy and feel unmotivated and very fatigued. Has anyone felt fatigued and lethargic after making the switch from opiods to Sub? How about when you came off the Sub altogether? Have any males experienced low testosterine after coming off opiods?
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Unread 06-27-2013, 11:08 AM   #2
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Hi Sparky, maybe you should get your testosterone checked. Opiates have been know to lower testosterone and that could part of your fatigue problem.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/mal...SECTION=causes

"Medications. The use of certain drugs, such as opiate pain medications and some hormones, can affect testosterone production."

Also, since you've been at 6mg a day for a month now and you're still tired, maybe it's time for another reduction. You can always give it a try, and if it doesn't work, go back to 6mg. Maybe think about giving 4mg a try. Give it a few days for the halflife of the 6mg a day to work it's way out. BUT if you reduce to 4mg and start having uncontrollable urges (not the out-of-boredom type - but the physiological ones) go back to 6mg. Or you could 6mg one day; 4mg the next and alternate like that and it will average 5mg.

Or it could be a combination of both. So really think about having your testosterone tested.

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Unread 06-27-2013, 12:17 PM   #3
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All I can say is yes, I am fatigued and feel a lack of motivation often, and yes it sucks. But I am a girl, so as for low T, that isn't me. loll! Anyway, I just tapered from 4mg to 2 mg yesterday, hopefully that will help. If I don't feel well after a few days, I'll go to 3mg. Nancy is right though, check your T, that could be it and do try a taper, it may be helpful. Let us know!! Julie
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  • Too high of a dose: lethargy, a medicated feeling ( described as “ cloudy” “foggy” or “ slow”), tiredness, nausea, constricted pupils in low light, a general unmotivated feeling, unjustified feeling of contentment, dehydration (indicated by dark urine)
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your dose is too high.
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Sparky642,
There can be many causes of your symptoms including low testosterone or too high of a dose of bupe. A process of elimination can help narrow it down. Since your symptoms are known side effects of too high of a dose and they didn’t appear until starting the bupe, there is a high likelihood this is what is responsible for your symptoms. Since your induction was done in a way that does not allow you to find your correct dose it’s unlikely you’re at it. By re-inducing yourself in a way that determines your correct dose you’ll be able to eliminate too much bupe as a possible cause of your symptoms. This link explains how to conduct a proper induction: http://www.naabt.org/documents/NAABT_PrecipWD.pdf
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I had no energy, suicidal thoughts. To get Dr. to call back takes an act of god.... Just stopped using. Don't know what to do....
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I have felt this way for almost 4 years. I have been on subs for that long. I never did my research and just trusted my Dr. He never mentioned decreasing, not once! I use to take 20-24mgs a day. My Dr then decreased me to 16mgs a day just over a month ago. I am now down to 8mgs a day and am going to slowly taper to 0. It may take 4 months, it may take a year. I will follow my body, but I am so tired of feeling so tired All The Time! I even just had a huge panel of b/w done. Found out I had a bad vit. D deficency. I also have hypothriodism, but the medication is suppose to take the fatugue away. So I honestly do not know what is causing my extreme fatigue and all around lack of motivation. I am hoping it will be an easy fix and that the subs have been causing it, but only time will tell.
So yes, I have felt this way since starting sub treatment and I do believe that it is a side effect, but I also believe that I have underlying issues that make is worse. I think it is always a good idea to have a physical and b/w done when feeling this way incase something else is going on with your body. I also think you should try a small decrease (maybe 1-2mg) and see if it helps.
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Unread 07-13-2013, 03:36 PM   #9
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Thanks for the tip Amy. I have had some blood work done and recently and I do have a deficiency in Vit D. I am taking prescription strength Vit D supplement.
As for you, I think you have been over medicated for a long time.
The more I hear about unethical Sub Drs. the more I believe a lot of these Drs. consider Sub as a way for them to make a quick easy buck, they are not into it to help their patients!!! They want you to stay on it for as long as they can so they can keep charging you for Drs. visits. What happened to their Hippocratic oath???
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Unread 07-13-2013, 04:24 PM   #10
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Dr. finally called back said she had never heard of such a side effect and said I should find a methadone clinic. REALLY!!!!! Geee Thanks
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Unread 07-13-2013, 06:10 PM   #11
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I would look into adding some vitamins to your diet, I struggle with insomnia and then I also have bouts of low energy. I know coming off of pain pills (which always gave me energy) is weird because you feel less motivated . You can't just take a pill and say yay!!!! SO EXCITED TO CLEAN MY HOUSE!!!! You have to actually drag yourself through some stuff first. I recommend getting a good vitamin stack started , I take , 3000 mg of C for immune system, vitamin e. fish oil for memory , folic acid( that's a women thing)
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I totally agree with you about most sub drs. I have no doubt in my mind that my whole dr office is only in it for the $$$. All the nurses and front desk/billing, all the staff, they treat everyone rudely and like we are all criminals or something. Yes, I have broke the law but I am not criminal. I am also not a "junkie". I was at one point in my life, but I have changed. I actually got on subs because of cravings. I was completely off methadone and I had one relapse. I actually ODed for the 1st time ever, it scared the crap outa me. My tolerance was super low yet they started me on 24mgs a day of suboxone. I didnt even have an opiate in my system the day of induction. I WISH I would have done research. I think bupe is a great med and it has def helped save my life. I am not bashing sub in any way. I am upset with Drs and how uneducted they are or they just dont give a s***! I domt feel my dr has given me any tools to cope with life. I have done that all on my own. I will be so happy when I am completely opiate free.
Ok enough venting. Thanks!
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Unread 07-17-2013, 12:04 PM   #13
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All I have to say is you got that right Amy. I also am not bashing subs, but I sure the hell wish I knew then what I know now! I was clean for 8 years from cocaine at the time I became dependent on prescription pills! I became dependent over a two year stretch, then went on subs. I am still clean from cocaine, 13 yrs. now, and if I can get off an almost 20 years coke addiction you'd think a year or less of subs would have done it! Ugh, I could kick the hell out of myself for being on these for over three years. I will admit I am feeling more energy though and am going to continue with 1mg and try to get the heck off these effen things. But first I must get off the Lexapro and that should be done soon!! There, now I vented! Thanks. Julie
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Unread 07-17-2013, 01:12 PM   #14
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Hey Julie, I just quit lexapro. It took me months to taper off of it and I've been off for a month . I'm still havif those brain zaps , I think they are decreasing slowly but I've heard they can last months after you quit. Also be aware that the yawning and lack of energy was a side effect of tapering on lexapro.
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Unread 07-17-2013, 01:21 PM   #15
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Hi Sparky - It could be low T or a combination of factors it's very difficult to say. If you are saying you were at 300 mg. of oxycodone per day for any extended period of time it could very well be that your free testosterone levels are low. Opiates cause suppression of the entire endocrine system including the leutininizing hormone produced in the pituitary gland which is responsible for testosterone production as well as adrenal gland suppression. I had this very problem myself due to my use. When I had mine checked it was pre-puberty level! I have taken a 100mg shot per week every since and will for the rest of my life because my body will never produce natural levels again. That is one of the many negitive consequences of opiates which is very common in both sexes. I would highly recommend a blood test and as other have said, a complete vitamin/mineral regime. Daily exercise can also be highly beneficial if you feel up to it. Best of luck! Mike
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I totally agree with you about most sub drs. I have no doubt in my mind that my whole dr office is only in it for the $$$. All the nurses and front desk/billing, all the staff, they treat everyone rudely and like we are all criminals or something. Yes, I have broke the law but I am not criminal. I am also not a "junkie". I was at one point in my life, but I have changed. I actually got on subs because of cravings. I was completely off methadone and I had one relapse. I actually ODed for the 1st time ever, it scared the crap outa me. My tolerance was super low yet they started me on 24mgs a day of suboxone. I didnt even have an opiate in my system the day of induction. I WISH I would have done research. I think bupe is a great med and it has def helped save my life. I am not bashing sub in any way. I am upset with Drs and how uneducted they are or they just dont give a s***! I domt feel my dr has given me any tools to cope with life. I have done that all on my own. I will be so happy when I am completely opiate free.
Ok enough venting. Thanks!
Amy you have the perfect attitude and I'm convinced you are gonna make it! I couldn't agree with you more about big pharma and the entire medical industrial-complex. You are always in my prayers. Please stay in touch and let us know how you are ok? God bless u. Mike
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Unread 07-17-2013, 01:51 PM   #17
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Amy! yea! Good for you. Slow taper is the way to go. Congrats on the current plan of action.

However, yeah while many are in it for $$ (they do have bills to pay by the way) There are good people out there. My doctor is a pain specialist but has taken the time to pass the course needed to prescribe suboxone. In my case he prescribes as any again, any doctor can subutex. The key is this he must write "For pain" he also write it PRN but knows I take all of my daily dose (ok to be honest, once in a while even more then the daily dose when I really suffer but even then he seems ok because I told him "doc, sometimes when it is bad I take two at a time" and he just nods)
When they write "for pain" it for now anyway, means it is "off lable" and there is a slight risk insurance will not pay for it.

So, he is maybe an exception but my first and second doctors were to me the salt of the Earth. The first was a professor as well as a doctor and was the founder of a clinicial trial of "Suboxone for the pain patient who takes more then the prescribed dose of opioid medication" (or something like that the trial name was quite long) Anyway, she was a darling! a real caring woman who shopped around until she found a prescriber once I left the trial.
The one she got was a psychairtrist who was also a sweet guy a real "mensch" who helped me a lot and never pressured me to taper, in fact I took that action upon myself. He could not continue to deal with the paperwork and DEA requirments so he stopped prescribing suboxone. I had hoarded a ton of pills so it was not a problem in the end.

Thats my take on the $$ side. It really sucks that some are just vipers but know that there are plenty of good folk out there.

My wife was on testosterone and it helped her mood but hair loss was a big issue for her. once she found out testosterone can cause hair loss, she stopped. Lucky for me because I have been on it for years so she saved me a $45 co-pay as I used the rest of her vial.

Funny but just an hour ago I injected myself with 400mg into my thigh. The buttocks are better but I have a hard time hitting it correctly. So, yeah for me I have been on replacement for several years. I believe chronic use of opioid medication led to my being "hypogonadal"
Why did I suspect I had low T ? Well my mood was down and my libido was near zero and I had been quite the well...."Guy!" In other words if I broke my leg and sex was offered, I'd say "well the hospital can wait" lol But the main thing for me besides mood was feeling timid. I was afraid to cross the street against the light in NYC because I was sure I'd get a ticket. I was afraid to open a soda bottle in the subway for the same reason. My wife started to eat a bagel on the subway and I freaked out saying that she'd get a ticket for eating on the train. (we laugh about it now but I was a real wuss)
Also I did not feel "right" I kept thinking something was wrong. So as said, opioid use can lead to low testosterone so get it checked. A too high dose can make one feel out of it to.

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Unread 07-17-2013, 03:34 PM   #18
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HI, just want to comment on the doctor thing. Although there are awful sub docs out there, there are greats ones too. Like Glen, the doctor I have is awesome and he is actually a GP. I found out when I first went to see him three years ago that he actually went and took the course so he could help his patients that needed it. He only makes me come every three months and has UA'd me twice in three years. (Though I wouldn't care if he UA's me every visit, nothing to hide. At first I saw him every month, then after a few months he made it every three mos. He charges for a regular office visit which my insurance covers and then gives me a script with two refills. Shortly after I started seeing him. I hired him to be my GP as well. Unfortunately, the greedy sub docs out there give the good ones a bad name!! Just wanted to share to let to others know there are good sub docs out there. Let's not stereotype! God bless!! Julie PS: Amy, I am so proud of you girl!!!
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So happy to find this site, in 5 minutes of reading I feel a lot better mentally. I just started 2 weeks ago and find my doctor to be extremely rude and condescending and laughed at me when I said I felt extreme fatigue .. claims he's never heard of this as a side effect. Strange then, that the insert with the meds mentions it and there is a sticker ON the box claiming may cause drowsiness..sooo irritated that he makes me feel like a piece of #)$ and I also feel like he thinks I'm lying when he asks me questions. I realize he deals with all types of people in this field but wow!

Also wondering how to get thru the fatigue, as many have said I literally could fall asleep sitting looking at my computer while working...it seems to come out of no where but he doesn't feel it has anything to do with the meds and told me that since they are instant release via melting under my tongue, there is no way I should feel tired a couple of hours later.

Very frustrated as he is one of the few doctors in town that accepts insurance and I was on a waiting list for 6 months to get into his program so switching doctors right now is not an option ...grrrr!!! Thanks for letting me vent and also for providing such great info for me to realize I am not alone in this.
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Unread 08-11-2013, 11:04 AM   #20
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Welcome kimmer66! Generally fatigue is associated with too high a dose. What mg did you start with and what are you taking now that you are in 2 weeks? I just bet you are taking too much so if you could let us know we could help you figure it out. Sorry your dr is not so good, but you are doing a good thing for yourself so hang in there.

Look at this link as it might give you some helpful info.

http://www.addictionsurvivors.org/vb...ad.php?t=21609

Also from education link:http://www.naabt.org/buprenorphine-side-effects.cfm

...When doses incorrectly however, other symptoms have been reported. Here are some of them.
  • Too high of a dose: lethargy, a medicated feeling ( described as “ cloudy” “foggy” or “ slow”), tiredness, nausea, constricted pupils in low light, a general unmotivated feeling, unjustified feeling of contentment, dehydration (indicated by dark urine)


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Hi bizzy: Thanks for the 411 on the Lexapro. OMG on those friggin' brain zaps. Unfortunately, I will have to continue taking the Lex due to the fact as I have been tapering, I was becoming unstable. Not nuts bizzy, just racing thoughts, etc. You know the drill. I will for now just concentrate on my sub taper, but again, thanks so much for letting me know about that! J

And Kimmer66: It does sound like your dose it too high my friend. I went through the exact same thing as you. I am at less than a quarter of a 8mg tablet now, so like 1/8 of a pill, and at times still get a little fatigued, but nothing like when my dose was too high. As for your doctor, I hate to hear about crappy sub docs, but it does make me feel so very blessed as mine is wonderful. But my advice, just deal with the idiot and look at the blessing that at least you have a sub doc that takes insurance. Look at it like this, you need him and once you see him, you get to leave his stupid ass til the next visit! LOL!! Try tapering, it may help. Bless you. Julie
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Thanks I appreciate just hearing that I am not the only one who has this! I am on 8mg 2x a day, the strips not the pills. I think what makes me even madder than actually feeling sluggish is the fact the doc acted like I was crazy for thinking Sub made me tired.

I am thankful to have him and that he takes my insurance, I won't drop out of his program since I don't want to be on another waiting list and I am thrilled with how this took care of my cravings but just a little let down at his attitude. He also seriously makes me feel like he thinks I'm lying when he asked how much I was taking (perc/vicodin) etc and I realize he works with people all over the spectrum and I'm sure he deals with a lot of liars, etc but sheesh!

Thanks again I am going to read the links you gave me, someone else also suggested too high of a dose. I notice it says on the package not to break or tear the strips in half, anyone know if this is actually a problem? A friend of mine who startes on Suboxone about a year before I did told me that she has lowered her dose by ripping a strip in half. She goes to the same doc I do who basically told us both he does not believe in lowering doses or tapering off and that we will be on Sub the rest of our lives. And if that's truly how it works I'm fine with that but there is also this sense of hmm he doesn't evne WANT me to try and taper down as he will lose out on money.

BUT I am obviously wayyyyy too new in the program to be making such decisions myself, I just want you to know that I really really appreciate your comments and advice!!
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HI, you can cut the strips, believe me and you should consider lowering your dose. You don't have to tell the doc, this just gives you a bigger supply of subs. A lot of people do that and there is nothing wrong with it. My doctor still prescribes me 20 mg a month, and I take an 1/8 of a tablet. I have been on subs for over three years!! I have quite a stash....good luck. Julie

PS: I meant to say, my doctor still prescribes me 20mg A DAY, not a month. Sorry, it didn't give me choice to edit when I went back in. Peace
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Thank you again for the advice. Not sure if its me getting used to the Sub or the fact that I have taken it upon myself to lower my dose but I am noticing a difference..yay! Still get moments of sudden fatigue but way better than it was when I first started. Whatever made it happen, I'm happy!

I found it rather irritating when my doctor basically told me you will never taper down off Sub, and you will never stop taking it so don't even try. I realize I am new to the program etc but wow way to just let me know right from the get go that this is a lifetime thing. And I'm fine with that if that's the case! But the fact he makes it sound like he would never consider tapering anyone down/off bothers me and makes me look at him like he's concerned about his cash flow continuing. In any case, it has been a lifesaver for me so if I end up on it forever, I can deal with that!

Thanks again for everyone who took the time to comment-I appreciate it!
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Kimmer,
What did you taper down to? What I have seen and heard , most Drs start you off with 2 strips (16 mg) a day. But as many here, will tell you, you should start at a low dosage and work you're way up to find "YOUR" correct dosage. If I were you, I would cut a couple strips into 4 equal pcs. That would give you 4 pcs of 2 mg for each strip you cut. Take 1 strip (8 mg) and see how you feel after a few hours. If you don't feel any WD's, stay at 8mg. If you start feeling bad take one of the pcs. of the strip you cut (2mg) and see how you feel. So on and so forth. I bet you will find you are comfortable at a dosage way lower than 2 strips (16 mg) right away. My DR had me on 2 strips when I started and felt really "fog headed" and not my self.
I swear some of these Sub Drs think if an addict ( no matter how much or what you were taking) are just walking and still alive they have done their job. They do not ask how you are feeling on your current dosage or ask if you think you might feel more comfortable and maintain at a lower dosage?
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Yes sparky i did but not that long after. Hope all goes well with you. Hmu if you need to chat.
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Thanks MattC,

I am fairly new to this site. Could you tell me how to Hmu? Can you chat with individual members when you want to?
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I am fairly new to this site. Could you tell me how to Hmu? Can you chat with individual members when you want to?
Hi Sparky, this is from one of your other threads when asked a couple of months ago:

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Grr I think I just lost my reply that I wrote, if it appears twice..sorry! Anyway I have started cutting mine in half, so into approx 4mg each "dose" and taking about 2-3 a day. I was under the impression that if I missed a dose I'd know asap and feel like crap immediately but it seemed like when I DID miss a dose there was quite a bit of lag time, like I didn't notice until the next day. May just be my imagination..but would be interested to know if you miss one how long before you start feeling THE NEED?!
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Your body will let you know, and when it does, you can dose properly. Everyone is different. Julie
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Making the transition is hard! At one month your brain is still getting use to the transition, and everyone reacts differently to it. I actually found that at doses above 4mg/day it tends to have this effect. Also, anything above even 2mg a day is overkill and might even be causing your symptoms of fatigue. Don't make the mistake of assuming that it lowers your test levels like other opiates, it's completely different. I've been lifting since I started taking subs and I can tell you that it hasn't affected my gains in the gym what so ever.

My recommendation?

Before you blame the sub make sure your doing three things...

1.Getting regular physical activity, if you don't like the gym, go for a walk in the woods(a personal favorite of mine in early recovery).

2. Check your diet. Are you eating a lot of bad fats and carbs? Not eating breakfast? Eating late at night or binging when you get hungry. I've found that diet can have the biggest impact on how you feel.

3. Get enough sleep! Get a routine going before you go to bed, shower, brush teeth, put on a pair of your fav. pajamas, etc. and make sure NO TV. The bedroom should be used for two things, going to sleep and having sex.

Hope this helps, as I was experiencing the same thing until I changed how I was living. Just taking sub isn't going to make you feel "better". Like anything else in life, it's just not that easy! Anything worth doing is going to be hard and recovery is no exception.

P.S.Your brain wants what it wants and at one month, it probably still wants the 'good' stuff. Give it time and start replacing your bad behaviors with good ones and the benefits will be greater than you can imagine.

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I agree with recoverybrother, Just meds are only part of recovery. I learned that I can change my brain chemistry for the better by changing my thinking for the better. Not a new concept for me but worth the effort. Also about the exercise, meals, and sleep. I am very sad about how some doctors treat us as pariahs instead of human beings asking for help. I am fortunate to have found a second doctor who is also a wonderful human being. He listens to me and even is willing to learn about addiction from an addict who is, IMO, the best source of information on addiction. For me, it's not recovery to be my own doctor but I have due to the fact that my first sub doc just wrote scripts and told me to do better. The man I have now asks tons of questions and encourages (strongly) to go to meetings or find some kind of support, get counseling if I feel I need it and to develop a long term plan for recovery. He likes that I am a member of this site. My last addiction was to pst and when I understood he didn't know about it I took him information so he would take it seriously when the next person walked in with that bug and he was thankful to me for informing him. So not all doctors are the same just like all addicts are not the same. May you all find compassionate helpers. Thanks, jeremiah
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Thanks RecoveryBrother,

I haven't been to the site for a while. I really appreciate your input!!!
I have tapered to 1 mg /day for about 5 weeks and still not feeling myself. Oxy just made me feel great and motivated. Now it seems I have to kick myself in the ass to get motivated to do anything!! It is so tempting to use oxy for an occasional lift but I know how that will end up. I learned that long term use of opiates suppress your adrenal glands? Does anyone know if that is true? I have heard so much what long term abuse of opiates does to your body and in particular your endocrine system but don't know what and what not to believe. All I know is this fatigue problem is for REAL!!! Does anyone know that if Sub also suppress your thyroid,pineal,adrenal, etc???
I have tapered down to 1 mg of Sub just so I have the minimal amount of an opiate in my body on a daily basis. I think I am starting to ramble now but want to THANK EVERYONE who has replied to my prior posts!!! I looked back at my posts when I started SUB back in May and I was a MESS. I appreciate everyone's advice..I hope to be posting more often and truly wish everyone who is stuck in this terrible Merry-go-Round of addication and the consequences we suffer GOOD LUCK!!!!!
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I know I already replied to this, but I feel like this exact topic appears in forums all over the web.

I've heard so many guys complain of this and jump to the conclusion that it must be low testosterone!

It might very well be, but I wouldn't take advice from anyone about your testosterone levels until you go to the doctor and have them checked.

I nearly convinced myself that I must have low T levels in early recovery and drove myself absolutely nuts!

When I finally got my test back the results showed that I actually had high T levels for someone my age!

If they are indeed low, and your over 30, then I would talk to your doctor about your options.

If your not over 30, I would give yourself at least 3-6 months and have them checked again before even considering hormone replacement therapy, as it would screw you up way worse than any opiate in the long run! Your body will stop making it's own completely and you will be in a much worse spot then before, so make sure you do your research and make an educated decision about this. It is an anabolic steroid and has all the side effects. Also stay away from over the counter testosterone supplements!!!

The body is very good at repairing itself, but it will take time, and longer than one month.

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