really sick

[mapp]

I have just recently started takin suboxone I am on day four.I had a 160mg oxycontin habit daily and if i didn have oxy i had a 240mg hydrocodone habit. I never got sick......since i have been taking suboxone i am throwing up every couple hours and every night around the same time i get a horrible headache that keeps me awake....when i wake up in the morning i wake up with even a worse headache than the night before is this normal and if there is a way to fix it could someone please tell me how to fix it?

[NancyB]

Hi mapp and welcome. Were you in mild to moderate withdrawals when you started Suboxone? How much Suboxone are you taking and when?

Sorry for the questions, but that'll help us help you.

Nancy

[mapp]

I had not had any in 5 days and i am takin 16mgs a day i cant take both of them at one time they slow me down too much for me to be able to function in collegs so i take one when i get up and then i take one when i get out of class a little bit after lunch.

[NancyB]

Hi mapp, if you hadn't had anything for 5 days, then I would guess that you're on too high of a dose of Suboxone. What do your pupils look like in regular light?

How did your doctor start you off on Suboxone? Straight to 16mg? Have you spoken with your doctor about this? Generally, when someone hasn't taken any opioids within a day or two, the doctor will start the patient off at 2mg, wait an hour or so to see how s/he is doing and then go up 2mg from there until cravings are gone.

Nancy

[mapp]

My pupils are normal they are not pin tips. The first day he gave me two mg's 4 times while i was there, I called his office and told him about it wednesday and they called me back and told me it was the side effects, the only reason i am taking 16mgs is the 8mgs he gave me in his office didnt touch my cravings at all

[NancyB]

Hi mapp, are you having cravings now? Did you throw up from day 1?

As hard as it may be, try to drink water to stay hydrated. You might be getting the headache from dehydration and that could be why it's worse in the morning.

The only other thing I can think of is a hypersensitivity to the naloxone. That might be a long shot, but one way to tell is to not swallow any of the saliva while the Suboxone is dissolving and when it's dissolved, spit everything out. Otherwise, you can wait and see if the symptoms subside as some do after you're stabilized.

Sorry I'm not of more definitive help.

Nancy

[mapp]

I wanna thank u for the advice its nice havin a place i can go to too ask questions i just wanna say thank you

[NancyB]

hi mapp, let us know how you're doing today when you get a chance.

Nancy

[mapp]

Im doing better but my headache when i woke up this morning i have come to the conclusion its not being dehydrated i drank massivie amounts of water last night. I tried what you said this morning by when i took my suboxone i spit the liquid out.Thank you very much for the advice i will keep you posted on if it works or not.

[Bqb247]

mapp, i have been on suboxone for 18 days now, and ive had a headache , really bad ones, almost every day. i talked to other women in my group last night and they said they are getting them also...one of them old me the longer we're on sub the better it will get. i reall feel 4 u, mine have been terrible. drink lots of water...i had to go to doc and he prescribed me imitrex. it works ok, but he only gave me 9 and now i cant get anymore untikl the 3rd b/c of insurance. hope u feel better

[mapp]

I am doing alot better today when i woke up my headache was not as bad i started yesterday spitting out the liquid and it seems to help out also, i also have not been throwing up as much today, I wanna thank everyone for their help and their good advice.

[NancyB]

Hi mapp, glad to hear you're doing somewhat better. Hopefully you're leveling out and the headaches and vomiting will stop soon. Make sure you're getting some nutrition in you. Even those Ensure supplement drinks will help.

Nancy

[kitty77]

Hi Nancy,Just a question, but WHY would a dr start someone on sub if they'd already gone 5 days w/o their doc/opiates??! By that amount of time ur already thru the majority of kicking ct. ( short acting opiates only) jmho

[NancyB]

Hi kitty!! How are you?

Some people start because they can get through the physical withdrawals, but it's the psychological stuff that happens afterwards that has caused them to relapse over and over again. Or they just can't get anything else until their appointment.

I've seen people go without opiates for months, but then when things start getting sketchy in their lives, go on a small dose of Suboxone because they're fearful of a full blown relapse. Kind of like safety net until they can feel strong enough to go without.

That's what I've seen anyways.

Nancy

[Stephen12]

Originally Posted by mapp

I had not had any in 5 days and i am takin 16mgs a day i cant take both of them at one time they slow me down too much for me to be able to function in collegs so i take one when i get up and then i take one when i get out of class a little bit after lunch.

I was terribly sick and nauseated when I first started taking suboxone. I puked and puked, and I just could not function. My doctor said that some people cannot tolerate the naloxene in the suboxone and so he switched me to the subutex which is the white pills. The orange suboxone will make me throw up every single time. I simply cannot tolerate it. You should talk to your doctor about switching. God bless!

[suboxgirl]

Try taking dramamine for the nausea...it helps a lot. Usually the nausea does not last long...so you would not need to take the dramamine for long either...after the first month it should get much much better...or be gone totally

[neisy58]

hi suboxgirl,
welcome to the site!!!!
i see you just joined recently and would really like to get to know you better.
if and when you feel like it you can go to the welcome room/starting treatment and post a new thread about yourself.
there are alot of very nice and helpful people on here and you have alot of good ideas to offer yourself.
i see by reading you must have been on suboxone even longer than me,i am still quite new to this,i started on 6-23-09 and have been doing great since.
the dramamine is a really great idea and i hope it helps somebody.
welcome again and i hope to see more of you.
denise

[Christine65]

I read that one of the inert ingredients in Suboxone is lactose. Since I am extremely lactose intolerant, I made sure I bought some medicine to help with that before I started Suboxone. Just wondering if you have the same problem?

[neisy58]

wow christine65,
even if the lactose was a very small amount,it may affect some.
you never know.
you may have just come up with something that will help some of the people on here,thankyou!!!!
welcome to the addiction survivours site!!!!
hope to see more of you
denise

[Christine65]

Thanks, Neisy

I have reactions to very small amounts of lactose, so I have to be careful. I just thought that if anyone else out there is lactose intolerant, this may be the reason for some of their digestive problems when taking Suboxone.

[isabella07]

Originally Posted by NancyB

Hi kitty!! How are you?

Some people start because they can get through the physical withdrawals, but it's the psychological stuff that happens afterwards that has caused them to relapse over and over again. Or they just can't get anything else until their appointment.

I've seen people go without opiates for months, but then when things start getting sketchy in their lives, go on a small dose of Suboxone because they're fearful of a full blown relapse. Kind of like safety net until they can feel strong enough to go without.

That's what I've seen anyways.

Nancy

If ONLY I had known about suboxone after a major surgery maybe I would have not had a full blown relapse.
IMO - I believe and I know for me, this disease waits for me to be complacent, I had years under my belt. But then I had medical issues, tried to go the safe route, but the pain was unbearable, then the death of my Mom brought issues that I could not deal with .

I chose to contunue misusing opiates, benzos instead of dealing with the pain - emotional and physical. Almost 2 years later and I wanted to die, was miserable, went to treatment, got out, the cravings were still there, no matter how many meetings/counseling I went to.
Back to detox, cravings hit again. Only when I found sub was I able to detox and control cravings and work towards having a some kind of life.

Long story short - even though, I accept this was my journey - I am happy/content today, though , I still wonder what would have happened if one of the many, many counselors, addiction specialists I saw had offered sub as an option.

Thanks, Isa : )