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Unread 08-21-2007, 12:37 PM   #1
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I went to rehab for 28 days. That was 2 weeks ago. I can see myself going right back down that slippery slope. I had antabuse, but I guess it wasn't enough of a detterent for me because I threw it out. I don't do AA. My wife is nagging me to go back to rehab because that's where I was good. Has anything else workd for anyone? I don't want to go back for another 28 days, but I don't want to contiinue this slope but I can't seem to stop myself. Anyone else going through this?
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Unread 08-21-2007, 03:58 PM   #2
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Hi Raymie~

Welcome to the forum! How have you been feeling in the last couple weeks? Craving alcohol? What are your triggers?

Antabuse certainly won't help if you have thrown it out! It's a deterrent for alcohol in the respect that it makes you ill if you consume alcohol. It won't stop any cravings for alcohol, just so you know. Did the rehab facility offer you any other medication options other than the antabuse? There are a few of them out there that would be options. Are you getting any type of outpatient treatment or therapy like a psychiatrist or counsellor? Perhaps that would be another step you could take. A very important step.

I'm sure your wife is very afraid that you're slipping back after all that you both have been through. That's understandable. It's hard for the one's who love you to sit back and see mistakes repeated over and over again.

I guess the main thing I am asking is do you have any type of followup plan in motion post-rehab?

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Unread 08-21-2007, 10:01 PM   #3
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Thank you Stacey for your response. The rehab pretty much sent me on my way and suggested that I get a doctor to refill the antabuse. But, like you said, it's not doing any good since I tossed it... I'm not in any type of treatment. So I guess that should be the first thing. I just don't know who to see, do you think I should go to a regular shrink or someone else? All I know is that I have to stop talking about it and do something.

I am craving alcohol, I've had a couple of drinks but the wrath of my wife keeps me from doing much else. Don't get me wrong, I love her to death and I know she's only doing it for my own good. Plus she's probably sick of me.

Do any of the other meds your talking about stops cravings? I just keep thinking about how easy it would be to escape. Thank you for helping me.
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Unread 08-21-2007, 10:31 PM   #4
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There link below describes the medication assisted treatments (MAT).

http://www.alcoholanswers.org/treatm...-treatment.cfm

I feel like some type of therapy now that you are out of the inpatient program is essential. Obviously, since you are relapsing, it's something you desperately need. I'm sorry to hear that the program didn't help with life on the outside. I would suggest calling the facility where you did your program and ask for a reference on an addiction specialist--medical doctor or psychiatrist. You talk of 'how easy it would be to escape' but you know you really aren't escaping. You are just fooling yourself---common sense needs to prevail where your brain is trying to tell you otherwise. Don't let the 28 days in rehab be a waste. Use whatever tools you learned there to get you by until you have a new plan.

Read about the meds in the link I gave you. If that link does not work, you can click on the tab up top under 'treament options'. Knowledge is power. Please keep us posted. You may even want your wife to come here and talk or read. It may benefit her, too.
I believe you love your wife, but the nature of the disease makes alcohol come first. It's a heartbreaking realization for her, I'm sure.

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Unread 08-23-2007, 04:52 PM   #5
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Hi Raymie

Just checking to see how things are going for you. Are you making any progres with finding a doctor?

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Unread 08-23-2007, 06:39 PM   #6
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Thank you again Stacey. I read that information and it doesn't seem like any of them stop cravings. The natrexone looks like it might be good though. That way I wouldn't drink so much if I did drink. I'll make an appointment with my regular doctor and see what he has to say. I had my wife read that info too and she thinks it's the way to go along with seeing a shrink. That I don't care to do, had enough of that babble for 28 days.

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Unread 08-23-2007, 07:06 PM   #7
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Hi Raymie
Read about the medicine, Campral, again. It does help with some of the physical symptoms you may be going through. However, I do agree that the shot is a great idea. With any pill you take, you can choose to take it or stop it on any given day and this increases your relapse potential. With the monthly shot, you are commited for the month and can't change your plans on a whim or bad day. And if you do drink, it wont be as much. Print some information on the Vivitrol shot from this site as not all doctors know about it yet. Best to go in armed and ready then to waste your time or money--both of which are very valuable.

Did you and the 'shrink' from the inpatient facility ever come to any conclusions on perhaps why you were drinking? Are you trying to numb yourself from somthing? Cope with stress?

Let me know if there is anything else I can do. Keep me posted on what's going on. I would like to follow your progress.

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Unread 08-27-2007, 02:02 PM   #8
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Thank you Stacey, you're sweet person. After a pretty bad weekend I made an appointment with my regular doctor for Wednesday. That's the earliest. I suppose I do it to numb myself. I probably blew it in rehab thinking back on it. I didn't talk too much to anyone. I just did my time and left. I suppose I should have really tried to get something out of it. Hindsight is 20/20 isn't now.

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Unread 08-27-2007, 04:25 PM   #9
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Raymie~

I'm guessing rehab would have been better if you participated......hindsite is always 20/20!! Did you go to rehab on your own or was it a forced situation?

I'm glad you have an appointment with your doctor. Don't forget to print some information on the Vivitrol to take with you. I think that would be important as not all doctors are aware of it.

Knowing why you drink is important, as well. Finding the root cause can help you find a way to deal rather than to run to alcohol each time.

I'm looking forward to hearing about your trip to the doctor. Let me know if there is anything else we can do to help.

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Unread 08-30-2007, 05:02 PM   #10
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Went to the doctor yesterday and picked up a script for camprel. He said to try that first and see what happens. If that doesn't work he'd do the shot. He wanted to find out more about it anyways since he didn't hear of it before. He also gave me the name of a shrink because he thinks I'm depressed and maybe anti-depressant. I'll call next week. But you know, this taking 2 pills 3 times a day is a pain in the butt.

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Unread 08-30-2007, 09:29 PM   #11
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I'm glad you have some type of help from your doctor and that he is willing to investigate the medications further for you. I think that's wise. I would also call the 'shrink' for an appointment as soon as you can. Sometimes you have to wait several weeks to get in and at least you will have an appointment on the books.

As far as taking the Camprel on schedule, you will do fine. And remember, it won't do you any good in the garbage!! It's not magic but it will help you. Take it at a common time, like breakfast, lunch and dinner (as long as you can take it with food)so you have a schedule. Anytime you crave a drink, ask yourself if you've taken your med. Don't get discouraged yet, you just started a good plan.

You have made some really good steps. Keep moving forward....

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Unread 09-02-2007, 12:43 PM   #12
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Stacey, do you know if I can have the shot and take camprel at the same time? I was reading your other answers to people and I think I want to have a safety net too. I drank yesterday at a party. The wife wasn't pleased to say the least. Thanks if you can find that out for me.
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Unread 09-02-2007, 03:22 PM   #13
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Hi Raymie

I'm looking into taking camprel and Vivitrol. There is no information stating that you CAN'T on the Vivitrol information site but no specicific information about duel medication therapy. I will try and get that answer for you, though.

Camprel is to help with cravings and symptoms--it won't completely take away your desire to drink. How much did you drink? And did you take your doses? The best thing you can do is to try to make wise choices with your social activities right now. You are in a very vulnerable time right now and should avoid situations that are reminiscent of your drinking days. I know, easy to say on a holiday weekend!!! But this is where you have to pick and choose what you do and with who. At the end of the day, you are still your biggest safety net.

Remember, when you feel the desire to drink, ask yourself if you have taken the camprel. I know you have to dose several times a day but be sure to do it. Make it count this time. Allow your wife to be upset; she should be, right? She loves you and only wants to see you succeed.

I hope to have more information for you ASAP.

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Unread 09-05-2007, 09:10 PM   #14
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raymie

It seems that Camprel and Vivitrol work very well together.

http://www.choosehelp.com/blog/archi...-of-alcoholism


When do you see your doctor again? Perhaps you can print out some of this information for your next visit. How are you doing, by the way??? How did the rest of the Holiday weekend go for you? Are you taking the Camprel?

I hope you read what JaneDoe posted about the Vivitrol shot. It's encouraging.

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Unread 09-12-2007, 03:56 PM   #15
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Raymie

Hoping you are doing ok. Check in when you can. Catch up with JaneDoe's progress, too!!

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Unread 09-23-2007, 12:53 AM   #16
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Hi Raymie,
I was very interested in your story, especially about Rehab., I went along time ago and I found I was the only one there doing the work. This is only my personal opinion but I don't think a pill is the answer. Then that can become an addition and you don't need that and then to blame the pill's when they do not work.
Have you ever thought of seeing a Therapist of your own. I have written in the past and I am a Big Fan of them, don't get me wrong I believe in AA and Al-Anon,
but I like talking to one person , who cannot tell anyone what I have told them.
It may help you, in your writing I hear alot of sadness and helpless feeling's, I don't think your mad as much as you are scared and hurt and you may be afraid of finding out that something could be triggering this and this is your only way of dealing w/it.
I wish you the Best.
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Unread 09-28-2007, 11:53 AM   #17
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raymie
I did the vivatrol shot and therapy. It is hard work but in the end worth it. I am almost one month now.
You should try it. It really does help and you cannot throw it out once you get the shot like you did with your pills.
Good luck to you.
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Unread 10-30-2007, 05:11 PM   #18
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raymie, you haven't been posting, but if you're reading, I'm going on month 3 with Vivatrol and counseling. I've not had one sip of alcohol in all that time.

If I can do it, you can too.
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Unread 11-02-2007, 08:48 PM   #19
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Haven't posted for a while, but I've been reading for the past few weeks. JaneDoe, I took your advice. I was slipping back really fast and it scared the crap out of me. I stopped taking the camprel. I kept forgetting 3x a day. I just said screw it.
I read the good things you've done JaneDoe, and I got the shot last week and am doing an intensive 2 week outpatient deal. 5 days a week 6 to 9. So I can keep working. One day a week for counseling. It's hard, but I'm getting somewhere. I'm making amends to my wife. She put up with so much of my bulls***. It's a wonder she's still here.

I'm trying. I'm trying hard. This time is the last chance I think I have. It's either life or death, and I choose life. One day at a time. Appreciate all the help. Appreciate you all caring.

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Unread 11-03-2007, 04:51 PM   #20
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Raymie!

What a surprise! Sounds like you have an aggressive plan ahead of you with all the right tools in place. I think you are taking it very serious this time and hope you get the most out of it all. Pay attention this time! Recovery isn't easy but you're doing it. Please keep up posted on your story.

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Unread 11-04-2007, 12:09 PM   #21
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Hi Raymie,

It sound's like you are on the right path, I wish you the best of luck, it isn't an easy path. You said you have chosen life, that is huge to acknowledge, it means' you really know what is happening to you.
I wish you the best! Keep strong, you have come so far.
Congradulation's!! Please let us know how you are doing when you get a chance!
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Unread 11-15-2007, 12:19 AM   #22
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Hey Raymie

Just checking in on you to see how things are going. Give an update when you can. I'm anxious to hear how you are!

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Unread 11-20-2007, 12:21 AM   #23
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Hey Raymie,

Me too, we just want to know how it is going!

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